In article <1ae1db46-7106-f212-2ff1-1f522e342c9d@xxxxxxxxx>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >My understanding when the improvement project was started was that the main issues were the highly manual maintenance >cost of the old site, and ease of use for newcomers. What we got wasn't an improved version of a site fit for geeks, >but something that looks like lots of other marketing-oriented sites. I feel sad when I look back at how good >www6.ietf.org still seems today. If our goal is to scare away everyone who isn't already deeply familiar with IETF culture and practice, I would agree. If we think it might be nice for new people to learn about the IETF and perhaps start joining mailing lists and reading and writing drafts before we old pharts all die off, perhaps not. It is my impression that there are not many active IETF participants who are unable to bookmark the tools link page, or do something like your local link page hack, but who knows, there are a lot of WGs I don't go to.