.... but it works horribly when there's any controversy or disagreement about scope. For example, the ATOMPUB WG was probably the worst experience I've ever had in a standards body, and in my opinion it's largely because the group never met face-to-face (except for a single pre-chartering meeting). This was sold as enabling small developers to participated, but what it ended up being was a mess, because people had little shared context and no established trust. Cheers, > On 16 May 2019, at 6:11 pm, Eliot Lear (elear) <elear@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I have done these before under Barry and Alexey. It works fine for non-controversial well defined stuff. > > Eliot > > On May 16, 2019, at 20:07, Aaron Falk <aaron.falk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Can anyone tell me whether our standards process allows for virtual-only working groups? In other words, could a working group choose to stop meeting at IETF venues and only convene online? >> >> --aaron >> -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/