Hi, On 2019-05-09 10:35, S Moonesamy wrote: > Hi Adam, > > There is the following sentence in Section 3.2 of draft-roach-bis-documents-00: > > "IESG members SHOULD NOT issue DISCUSS or ABSTAIN ballot positions > based on unchanged text except as described in Section 3.3." > > Why is an ABSTAIN an issue? Because if 1/3 of the IESG members put in an ABSTAIN position the document can not be approved. I think the main scenario would be that one update something but don't fix something like a serious weakness in security. Then maybe many IESG members want to put in a "I am holding my nose on this" with the effect that the document anyway become blocked. > > What about IESG member "comments"? Can those comments be ignored? Yes, comments are just comments and authors, editors and WG are free to ignore them. The IESG appreciate them being addressed, but we don't consider them critical. If that is the case, the issue should be put in the Discuss part. For more information about the IESG ballot positions please read: https://www.ietf.org/standards/process/iesg-ballots/ And more relevant about the Discsuss versus comment are: https://www.ietf.org/blog/discuss-criteria-iesg-review/ Cheers Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Network Architecture & Protocols, Ericsson Research ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Torshamnsgatan 23 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: magnus.westerlund@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------