.... and in China. (Perhaps even more so, considering what's happening to certain Canadian citizens there.) Stephan On 3/7/19, 07:32, "ietf on behalf of Paul Wouters" <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx on behalf of paul@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: On Thu, 7 Mar 2019, Eliot Lear wrote: > However… > > This criterion can and has come into conflict with other criteria, such as ease of travel to the locale, cost, and even safety and health issues. Michael is > correct that we could lose a credit for the moved meeting, and Richard is correct that Canada has refused entry to people as well. Indeed a dear colleague on the > IAB from China was refused entry at one point. In addition, it is often hard for some immigrants who leave a country to reenter. The IASA has to take all of this > into account. > > As to community fears and concerns, if we don’t go to the U.S. at all, then we will have no data on just how we are affected. While there are other conferences > from whose experience we can and do benefit, the demographic of each community is slightly different. It’s important to know how many people were denied access > to a country. I encourage the community to reflect on the numbers as and when they become available from the 2021 San Francisco meeting, not to mention all the > other meetings in other countries in between. And yes, a lot can and will change between now and 2021. Indeed. Look at how suddenly there is this Canada - China issue, which might strongly affect our meetings scheduled in Canada. Paul