On Feb 24, 2019, at 1:34 PM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Ted Lemon <mellon@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Unfortunately I think that in order to do this job effectively, better >> tooling is required. Right now we have very poor conflict detection tooling, >> which essentially only works for WG chairs. I had a little brainstorm about > > It's only visible to WG chairs and ADs, but actually can be applied to > additional people if we can figure out who is authorized to add those people. It would be interesting to see what would happen if everybody just listed all the working groups they wanted to attend, in order of preference. I doubt that simply using that data would produce an optimal schedule, but it would be interesting to collect it and see what results it produced. >> tooling prior to the last IETF, when I had a slot with four sessions in it I >> wanted to attend, but unfortunately didn’t have the energy to actually lay >> down any code. I think we would also need even shorter slots, and more of >> them, to make this work. But for that to work, we’d need to get disciplined >> about how we use time. > > I have been pushing for more short slots at the beginning of the week, which > would have full conflict detection. And then a much more relaxed Wed/Thur. > in which bigger slots could be allocated, but with much less promise of no conflicts. That wouldn’t suck. :) > What I see is that some conflicts were resolved in favour of some areas, > while other cross-area people were regularly having difficulties. I find > that I have about the same conflicts as before. The idea that people are only interested in a particular area is really counter to my personal experience, though. In order to only be interested in one area, you have to really limit what you do. If you are trying to deliver a solution, it probably touches upon many areas. E.g., the work I’m doing in homenet and dnssd hits intarea, routing, security and applications. And because I’m also interested in email delivery and human rights, that creates even more conflict for me. It’s possible that I’m atypical, but I suspect that it’s the other way around—that people tend to focus on an area because if they don’t, they get too many conflicts, or to put it differently, they tend to show up for one area in preference to others because that’s the way the scheduling currently works.
