Hi, On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 10:57:43PM -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote: > HA! ok. As gert/nick noted ... we have Nx100G links today (at the edge) and > coming nx400G ... there's just not a reasonable story for "dpi" there. (I > suppose: "yet" and "without paying the approximate value Coca-Cola > Companies yearly advertising budget") Indeed. Unfortunately, there *is* a story for being able to rate-limit incoming crap by protocol type - "give me no more than 200 Mbit/s of UDP packets coming from source port 53". Which implies that as soon as the evil guys out there find a way to generate DDoS streams carrying EHs that our border routers will (have to) apply very strict rate limiting to everything they do not understand. - pass TCP - rate-limit UDP on well-known reflective attacks port - pass rest of UDP - rate-limit ICMP - rate-limit fragments - rate-limit all the rest to something which can never exceed a customer's access-link game over, EH (We're not doing this today, because as of today, "volume DDoS" comes in without EHs [except fragment] - but this is just a matter of time) Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279