Dear Vijay,
Actually, the « originating » is not qualifying something by itself in this sentence, it has to be understood as a global wording for the new defined
session case which is "originating after CDIV" which is different for an “originating call leg”.
If you don’t mind, I would prefer to keep this wording as it is because it is used although the I-D and quoted in the Introduction section in the
following sentence:
"The sessioncase-param parameter of the P-Served-User header field is extended with the "orig-cdiv" parameter for this "originating after CDIV"
session case."
Marianne
De : Vijay Gurbani [mailto:vijay.gurbani@xxxxxxxxx]
Envoyé : lundi 5 novembre 2018 18:14
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Dear Marianne: Thank you, again, for attending to my comment.
Note that you still have a dangling verb "originating" in the sentence. The verb is not qualifying anything:
For this use case, this document creates a new parameter
("orig-cdiv") for
the originating after CDIV session case to be embedded in the P-Served-User
header field.
In my email, I had suggested adding "call leg" after the "originating" above. Otherwise, the sentence above is incomplete ... "originating" what?
Thanks Vijay for your last feedback. I’m fine with your proposal and have updated the I-D accordingly (v-07):
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter/
BR,
Marianne
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Dear Marianne: Thank you for attending to my comments.
I am fine with the text you added for S1.3.
Regarding "secase" and "regstate" being existing parameters, ok. However, since the I-D is defining the "orig-cdiv" parameter, I still think it makes sense to mention this before S4. You already have the text at the end of S1.3 (the current sentence appears
ambiguous). Let me suggest an edit:
OLD:
For this use case, this document creates a new parameter for the
originating after CDIV session case to be embedded in the P-Served-
User header field.
NEW:
For this use case, this document creates a new parameter ("orig-cdiv") for the
originating call leg to be embedded in the P-Served-User header field.
Thanks.
On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 10:30 AM <marianne.mohali@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi all,
Thanks Vijay for the GenArt review.
I've just submitted a v-06 to address your comments and here is my feedbacks:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter/
>Minor:
>
>- S1.3: I am not sure I follow the logic in the problem statement. Who
> is the "diverting" user? The user to who the call was destined? If so,
> best to say that explicitly. (To be sure, I looked into rfc5502 as well,
> and it does not define "diverting" user either.) A bit below (in S4), you
> use the term "served" user to refer to the diverting user. All in all, the
> terminology here could be refined. I suspect that the "originating" user
> is the callee.
>
> Concretely, I think that the first paragraph of S1.3 should be re-written,
> perhaps with a figure (?) to explain the call flow, or at least some
> context using Alice, Bob and Carol as the example in S7.1 does (I suspect
> that Carol is the "diverting" user here).
[MM] Indeed, I can see that for people not very aware of IETF and 3GPP vocabulary for call diversion service, it can be confusing. I prefer not to add a call flow in the problem statement section but I did some updates in the wording and inserted the Alice,
Bob and Carol users for a better understanding.
>Nits, typos:
>
>- S4, step 3: s/user an INVITE that/user as an INVITE that/
> Also, the "secase" and "regstate" parameters are what you are standardizing
> this I-D, as such you mention this before S4 so the reader knows that
> these are the new parameters. Same for "orig-cdiv" parameter.
[MM] Nits is corrected. About your comment, actually, this I-D is only standardizing "orig-cdiv" parameter. This is the reason why "sescase" and "regstate" appear, as part of a normal session establishment and before any call diversion while the new parameter
can appear only when this event occurs (as added by this I-D).. I hope it's clearer for you.
I hope it's ok.
Best regards,
Marianne
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Review result: Almost Ready
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Document: draft-ietf-sipcore-originating-cdiv-parameter-??
Reviewer: Vijay K. Gurbani
Review Date: 2018-10-29
IETF LC End Date: 2018-10-26
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Summary: This draft is on the right track but has open issues, described in the review.
Major issues: 0
Minor issues: 1
Nits/editorial comments: 1
Minor:
- S1.3: I am not sure I follow the logic in the problem statement. Who
is the "diverting" user? The user to who the call was destined? If so,
best to say that explicitly. (To be sure, I looked into rfc5502 as well,
and it does not define "diverting" user either.) A bit below (in S4), you
use the term "served" user to refer to the diverting user. All in all, the
terminology here could be refined. I suspect that the "originating" user
is the callee.
Concretely, I think that the first paragraph of S1.3 should be re-written,
perhaps with a figure (?) to explain the call flow, or at least some
context using Alice, Bob and Carol as the example in S7.1 does (I suspect
that Carol is the "diverting" user here).
Nits, typos:
- S4, step 3: s/user an INVITE that/user as an INVITE that/
Also, the "secase" and "regstate" parameters are what you are standardizing
this I-D, as such you mention this before S4 so the reader knows that
these are the new parameters. Same for "orig-cdiv" parameter.
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