Just to add one point ...
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 3:38 PM Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 01:31:27PM -0700, joel jaeggli wrote:
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> > On Oct 29, 2018, at 13:07, Aaron Falk <aaron.falk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > It was not in Montreal. My understanding is that the Meetecho contract did not require rooms (or just our room) to be setup by Sunday evening.
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> Meetecho does cover Sunday tutorials / program events. but is not generally intended to cover after-hours / informal type events. As this now appears on the agenda it appears to be edging out of the informal state, so possibly this is something we should raise via the iesg.
The IESG had discussed making HotRFC a part of the regular agenda for this
meeting, but ended up leaving it marked as an experiment, to get a bit more
experience with the level of attendance and presentations we can expect.
It seems likely that if/when it migrates from an experiment to a part of
the regular agenda, remote access would be available (if not before then).
In conversations with Aaron Falk for the first HotRFC at IETF 101, the initial theory was that HotRFC was letting anyone in the community say "here's a topic, here's where it's being discussed, if you're interested, follow me out of the room and we'll talk". March was a long time ago, but I don't remember many, if any, questions/answers after each presenter, but that's not surprising with 5-minute slots, which I believe are currently now 4 minutes long (sorry, I'm sending e-mail while packing, so not checking this).
Providing MeetEcho didn't seem useful for 4-minute slots, if someone was not onsite and couldn't participate in any of the informal follow-up afterwards. A remote attendee could see the titles, see the slides, and follow-up on whatever looked interesting by e-mail, even if we didn't provide real-time audio and video feeds.
There could easily be other theories, but please think about whether changes will make HotRFC more heavy-weight, while people are thinking about improvements.
Aaron did get a request for someone who wanted to present remotely at IETF 101, but NO ONE could follow that person out of the room for follow-up, because they weren't in England. If "remote participation" also means "remote presenters", that's also something to think about.
But we didn't have HotRFC before a year ago, so I'm sure improvements are possible.
Travel safely,
Spencer
