Ole, Yes, although the sample is biased, I think that diversity along the technical, commercial and geographical axes hasn't been lacking. The bias is economic - people from larger, richer, more successful organzations can get time and funding to participate. But lack of diversity along the human axis is a problem. Some data points (to consider in relation to Alissa's gender data): In 2018, we have 5 women out of 27 IAB+IESG seats (*not* counting the IETF Chair twice). In 2008, it was 1 out of 27. In 1998, it was 2 out of 24. Regards Brian On 2018-09-28 21:07, Ole Troan wrote: > Diversity: > > - Values: Bell-head versus packet head. State versus stateless, intelligence in network versus intelligence in hosts. > - Layerists: network-layer vs some upper-layer > - Tussle-field side: Vendor, End-user, Service-provider or Content monopolist > - Open source vs proprietary code > - Software vs hardware > - Router, end-host, content or applications > - Language C, LISP or some other obscure language that must be protected > - Purist vs middlebox NATter > - Tourist vs Retired > - Corporate drone vs Volunteer for a better world > - NSA operative vs … > > I have never worked in an organisation more diverse than the IETF. > Is it perfect, and does so much diversity make reaching consensus easy? No, but I think we should be darn proud of ourselves. > > Ole > . >