We are not supplanting the mechanism for routing. There is a layer above routing that can (1) pull like DNS, and/or (2) push like BGP to realize an overlay. Dino > On Sep 11, 2018, at 10:30 AM, Kyle Rose <krose@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 1:11 PM, Dino Farinacci <farinacci@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > but this doesn't specifically address the fact that a pull-based control plane will fail in a different way, and one that is potentially harder to diagnose, from a push-based one. One area in which it differs is that a loss of a BGP session followed by a network partition is obvious to all users trying to move traffic between those two networks, while choking off control plane traffic in LISP may only affect some endpoints in a mysterious way. > > IMO, a feature and not a bug. And arguably harder to diagnose makes it more secure. > > Possibly. But being better or worse isn't my point, so much that it's *different* in a material way from a security perspective. Those deltas are where something proposing to supplant the prevailing mechanism for DFZ routing needs to be clear to operators. > > Kyle >