Re: Tsvart last call review of draft-ietf-doh-dns-over-https-13

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[perhaps trimming to just ietf@ was overzealous?]
On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 10:16:04AM -0400, John Levine wrote:
> In article <153397442482.20828.13036371457377811227@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> you write:
> >This document is almost ready, but requires some clarifications and, more
> >importantly, an analysis of the impact of switching from a connection-less
> >protocol (UDP) to a connection-oriented protocol (HTTPS/TCP) for DNS resolution.
> 
> But DNS resolution has always worked over TCP.  See RFC 1035, section
> 4.2.2.  Tbe usual case is retry on TCP when a UDP response is
> truncated, but it's equally valid to do TCP in the first place.
> 
> Is there a reason that the security threats of DOH over TCP would be
> any diferent from existing DNS over TCP?

Well, HTTPS pulls in the TLS crypto and its potential increased resource
consumption, but in general TLS tries to avoid DoS opportunites where a
client can make the server do lots of work without having first provided
some indication that the client is "real".

-Ben




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