RE: [TLS] Expanded alert codes. [Was Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24]

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Anyway, I don't mean I'm against the idea of the extended errors extensions.... Only that let's not take it lightly. It can be a good debugging tool but also a risky one.

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De: TLS <tls-bounces@xxxxxxxx> en nombre de Ion Larranaga Azcue <ilarra@xxxxxxxxxx>
Enviado: domingo, 1 de abril de 2018 11:55
Para: Peter Gutmann; Eric Rescorla
Cc: General Area Review Team; Dale R. Worley; IETF discussion list; draft-ietf-tls-tls13.all@xxxxxxxx; <tls@xxxxxxxx>
Asunto: Re: [TLS] Expanded alert codes. [Was Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24]

Of course not. I mean an attacker who is specially interested in this server and knows that someone has requested a debug window on it.

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De: Peter Gutmann <pgut001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Enviado: domingo, 1 de abril de 2018 10:14
Para: Ion Larranaga Azcue; Eric Rescorla
Cc: IETF discussion list; General Area Review Team; draft-ietf-tls-tls13.all@xxxxxxxx; Dale R. Worley; <tls@xxxxxxxx>
Asunto: Re: [TLS] Expanded alert codes. [Was Re: Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tls-tls13-24]

Ion Larranaga Azcue <ilarra@xxxxxxxxxx> writes:

>And for the malicious user that, knowing the server is currently in debug
>mode and returning extended errors, can more easily perform attacks on it....

If there's someone on the Internet who can scan every TLS server on the planet
once a minute to see a brief debug window open up, and then perform something
like a million-message-attack using a single debug message, then they're kinda
wasting their abilities in attacking TLS servers...

Peter.


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