Re: AD Responsibility (was: Re: New "Note Well" Text)

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that specific point did not come up (as I recall) in the BOF discussions where the 
question of the specific callout of ADs & WG Chairs was brought up
but it does seem to me to be a legit worry

Scott

> On Feb 17, 2018, at 8:16 AM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> --On Saturday, February 17, 2018 06:22 -0500 "Scott O. Bradner"
> <sob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> see RFC 8179 (BCP 79) section 1.m
>> 
>> m. "Participating in an IETF discussion or activity": making a
>>      Contribution, as described above, or in any other way
>> acting in       order to influence the outcome of a discussion
>> relating to the       IETF Standards Process.  Without
>> limiting the generality of the       foregoing, acting as a
>> Working Group Chair or Area Director       constitutes
>> "Participating" in all activities of the relevant
>> working group(s) he or she is responsible for in an area.
>> "Participant" and "IETF Participant" mean any individual
>> Participating in an IETF discussion or activity.
> 
> Scott,
> 
> A question about the above, with the hope that it will never
> become important.  I believe that traditionally any and all ADs
> in a particular area are jointly responsible for every WG in
> that area, i.e., that splitting WGs in a given area among ADs is
> an administrative convenience, not a change of responsibility in
> the sense above.   Is that still the case or is the above
> language a back door effectively creating mini-areas with one AD
> each?  And, if the latter, should assignments of WGs to ADs be
> something that is a bit more transparent than it has been, e.g.,
> something that should be part of the review at WG charter time,
> subject to review and appeal when changes are made to
> responsibility for existing WGs (even if the changes are due to
> AD turnover), and even something that should be explicitly
> visible to the Nomcom?
> 
> thanks,
>    john
> 
> 
> 
> 





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