Re: Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-intarea-probe-07

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Good enough.
Joel

On 12/4/17 5:48 PM, Ron Bonica wrote:
Joel,

The important piece of information is that this is a pseudowire endpoint. These days, most pseudowire endpoints seem to be Ethernet. But some aren't. There are still some legacy layer 2 pseudowires hanging around.

So, since we can't enumerate every type of pseudowire endpoint, we might as well just call it a pseudowire endpoint and provide no further information about the type.

                                                                                             Ron


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From: Joel M. Halpern [mailto:jmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
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Subject: Re: Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-intarea-probe-07

Thank you Ron.

On the E-bit (or P-Bit), is the important goal that it is a virtual interface, that it
is pseudowire, or ?  It might help there text indicating what a receiver might
do differently based on this bit being set or unset.
Having said that, Ethernet Pseudowire is at least a clearer distinction than just
"Ethernet".  And as long as the bit has a clear definition, any disagreement
about what "should" be identified is clealry NOT a show stopper.

Yours,
Joel

On 12/4/17 4:13 PM, Ron Bonica wrote:
Hi Joel,

Thanks for the review. Responses inline......

                                     Ron


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Subject: Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-intarea-probe-07

Reviewer: Joel Halpern
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Document: draft-ietf-intarea-probe-07
Reviewer: Joel Halpern
Review Date: 2017-11-30
IETF LC End Date: 2017-12-13
IESG Telechat date: 2017-12-14

Summary: This document is almost ready for publication as a Proposed
Standard RFC.

Major issues:
      I can not determine from the text why two identification objects are
      sometimes allowed, or how they are to be used.  The texts seems
to indicate
      that they can be somehow combined to identify a single probed
interface.
      But I can not see how.

[RB ]
Good catch.

At one time I thought that this was necessary because IPv6 link-local
addresses are not necessarily unique to the node. So, you might need to
probe by IP address and something else (e.g., ifName). However, ifName is
unique to the node. So, one instance of the interface identification object is
enough.

I will remove that sentence.



Minor issues:
      In section 2.1 in describing the usage when the probed interface is
      identified by name or ifindex, the text refers to MIBII, RFC 2863.  I
would
      expect to see it refer instead (or at least preferentially) to RFC 7223,
      the YANG model for the Interface stack.

[RB ]
Fair enough. I will make that change in the next version.


      The E bit in the Extended ICMP Echo reply seems a bit odd.  Shall we try
to
      encode all the possible interface types in this field?  Shall we try to
      distinguish Ethernet directly over fiber from Ethernet over ...?  What
      about an emulated Ethernet interface (pseudowire, etc.)  I do not
      understand why this is here, and fear it is ambiguous.
[RB ]
Looking back, I described that badly. This bit is set if the interface is a
pseudowire endpoint and it is running Ethernet.

Maybe I should call it the P-bit for Pseudowire endpoint. We don't need to
specify what type of pseudowire it is.

What do you think?


Nits/editorial comments:
      I find the description of the node containing the proxy interface as
being
      "the probed node" as being somewhat odd, as it is not the node
containing
      the probed interface.  I would have expected it to be called "the proxy
      node"?
[RB ]

Fair enough. I can make that change in the next revision.


      Very nitpicky: In section 4, the step reading "If the Code Field is equal
      to No Error (0) and the L-bit is clear, set the A-Bit." probably ought to
      say "otherwise, clear the A-bit."

[RB ]
Fair enough. I can make that change in the next revision.






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