Re: Nomination reminder from the 2017-2018 NomCom

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All,

I think what Stewart are concerned about is that at the same time we are
asked for nominations, we don't know who is nominated. Nor do I have a
chance to look at the group of nominees for a position and see that I'm
comfortable with competence and profile of the nominees. I might want to
try to convince someone to run for a position even if the number or nominees are "good".

I distinctly remember that previous years I have had the opportunity to
look at the list of nominees prior to closing the nomination.

/Loa

On 2017-09-26 16:03, Stewart Bryant wrote:
Ah, yes, the f/b requests were started a lot earlier and that had the side-effect of showing the nomination list. However I think that was an important and beneficial side effect in encouraging the nomination, and maybe should become a full feature.

- Stewart


On 26/09/2017 14:49, Mary B wrote:
In the past, the way we made the list visible was when the period to request comments was opened - anyone that logged in could see who had been nominated.  We have never published directly on the mailing list.   That was a conscious decision when we switched to Open list in 2009.  If you recall previously, there was a blast of emails to various folks and that was the only way to see the list -  if you weren't asked to provide input via email, you never knew who had been nominated. Maybe Peter can setup to do request for feedback earlier than anticipated?


Regards,
Mary.

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 4:35 AM, Loa Andersson <loa@xxxxx <mailto:loa@xxxxx>> wrote:

    Peter,

    I strongly support Stewart's comment below, could we please make
    the list with candidates that have accepted available.

    /Loa


    On 2017-09-26 11:10, Stewart Bryant wrote:

        Hi Peter

        Unlike all the previous years (that I remember), in which we
        have had open lists, the nominees who have accepted have not
        been made public during the nomination period.

        In my view, seeing the list build during the nomination period
        has, become an important part of deciding whether to put a
        name forward (including one own), and in particular in
        thinking hard about which names forward, or persuading a good
        candidate to accept nomination.

        I really think that it would help you build a stronger
        candidate pool if you made the candidates names known.

        - Stewart


        On 25/09/2017 19:36, NomCom Chair 2017 wrote:

            Nominations remain open for IESG, IAB, and IAOC positions
            through October 8.  While we have already received many
            nominations, there are a few positions for which
            nominations are thin.  We are looking for more nominees
            for these positions, although we of course welcome more
            nominees for all of the positions.

            The positions for which we are particularly interested in
            receiving more nominations are:

                 o  Internet AD (only one nominee here; come on, let's
            make this competitive!)
                 o  Management AD (we have quite a few nominations for
            this area, but only one acceptance)
                 o  Transport AD (only one nominee for this area)
                 o  IAB member (there are 6 open slots and only
            slightly more than that number of nominees)
                 o  IAOC member (no accepted nominations for this
            position yet)

            --------

            The original call for nominations:

            The 2017-18 Nominating Committee (NomCom) is seeking
            nominations from now until October 8, 2017. The open
            positions being considered by this year's NomCom can be
            found at the end of this email and also on this year's
            NomCom website:

            https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2017/
            <https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2017/>

            Nominations may be made by selecting the Nominate link at
            the top of the NomCom 2017 home page, or by visiting the
            following URL:

            https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2017/nominate/
            <https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2017/nominate/>

               {Note that nominations made using the web tool require
            an ietf.org <http://ietf.org>
                datatracker account. You can create a datatracker
            ietf.org <http://ietf.org> account
                if you don't have one already by visiting the
            following URL:
            https://datatracker.ietf.org/accounts/create/
            <https://datatracker.ietf.org/accounts/create/> }

            If you are unable to use the web form, nominations may
            instead be made by email to nomcom-17 at ietf dot org. If
            using email, please include the word "Nominate" in the
            Subject and indicate in the email who is being nominated,
            their email address (to confirm acceptance of the
            nomination), and the position for which you are making the
            nomination.
            If you are nominating someone other than yourself, please
            tell us if we may tell the nominee that you were the one
            who made the nomination.
            If you wish to nominate someone via email for more than
            one position, please use separate emails to do so.

            Self-nomination is welcome!

            Willing nominees will be asked to fill out a questionnaire
specific to the position for which they are nominated. The questionnaires will be available on September 5, 2017
            and have a submission deadline of October 13, 2017.

            NomCom 2017-18 will follow the policy for "Open Disclosure
            of Willing Nominees" described in BCP 10/RFC 7437.  As
            stated in RFC 7437: "The list of nominees willing to be
            considered for positions under review in the current
            NomCom cycle is not confidential". Willing nominees for
            each position will be listed in a publicly accessible way,
            e.g., anyone with a datatracker account may access the
            lists.  Additionally, the nomination form asks if we may
            share your own name with the nominee. In all other ways,
            the confidentiality requirements of BCP 10 remain in
            effect.  All feedback and all NomCom deliberations will
            remain confidential and will not be disclosed.

            There is a field on the form you can mark in order to
            allow the NomCom to tell the nominee that you were the one
            who made the nomination. This defaults to “no” - so if you
            don't mark the field we won’t tell.

            In order to ensure time to collect sufficient community
            feedback about each of the willing nominees, nominations
            must be received by the NomCom on or before October 8, 2017.

            Please submit your nominations as early as possible for
            the sake of your nominees. Note that nominations should
            not wait for management permission, as it is easier to
            decline the nomination than put one in late.

            The NomCom appoints individuals to fill the open slots on
            the IAOC, the IAB, and the IESG. The list of people and
            posts whose terms end with the March 2018 IETF meeting,
            and thus the positions for which this NomCom is
            responsible, follows:

            IAOC

            Leslie Daigle*

            IAB

            * Ted Hardie
            * Joe Hildebrand*
            * Lee Howard*
            * Erik Nordmark
            * Martin Thomson
            * Brian Trammell

            IESG

            * Adam Roach (ART)
            * Alia Atlas (RTG)*
            * Benoit Claise (OPS)*
            * Suresh Krishnan (INT)
            * Mirja Kühlewind (TSV)
            * Alexey Melnikov (ART)
            * Kathleen Moriarty (SEC)


            *- have indicated that they do not intend to accept a
            renomination. This information is always up to date on
            https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2017/
            <https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2017/>

            Please be resourceful in identifying possible candidates
            for these positions, as developing our talent is a very
            crucial requirement for the IETF, and also, please
            consider accepting a nomination. You'll find extensive
            information about specific positions, developed by the
            IAB, IESG, and IAOC, under individual tabs at:

            https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2017/requirements/
            <https://datatracker.ietf.org/nomcom/2017/requirements/>

            In addition to nominations, the NomCom seeks community
            input on the positions themselves.  We need and welcome
            the community's views and input on the jobs within each
            organization. If you have ideas on the positions'
            responsibilities (more, less, different), please let us know.

            Please send suggestions and feedback about this to
            nomcom-17 at ietf dot org.

            Thank you for your help in identifying qualified nominees!

            Peter Yee
            NomCom Chair 2017-18
            nomcom-chair-2017 at ietf dot org
            peter at akayla dot com



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Loa Andersson                        email: loa@xxxxx
Senior MPLS Expert
Huawei Technologies (consultant)     phone: +46 739 81 21 64




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