Re: Need for secured email delegation workflow

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On 12 Aug 2017 01:45, "Phillip Hallam-Baker" <phill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Dave Cridland <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 8 August 2017 at 18:25, vaibhav singh <vaibhavsinghacads@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>
> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Dave Cridland <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> On 14 July 2017 at 15:42, Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > While it may be OK to share a key with my phone (but too difficult to do
>> > securely in practice), sharing with a delegate is hairy on many
>> > different
>> > layers. But still it’s the same issue.
>>
>> I think it's all solvable using Proxy Re[en]cryption, but that seems
>> to be a little fraught with patents at the moment.
>
>
> I am not comfortable with sharing my private key with anyone, be it the
> proxy user itself. I believe that is a requirement for Proxy Reencryption,
> please correct me if I may have interpreted it wrongly.
>

You have interpreted it incorrectly.

The proxy holds a key that will change a message encrypted to its
proxy key into a message encrypted for an authorized key. It cannot
decrypt the message to plaintext itself.

All quite bleeding edge, all quite patent-encumbered, but look at
Mathew Green's work for details - he's been researching very heavily
in this field.

​Proxy re-encryption has been around for 25 years. It is hardly cutting edge.

There is a patent on the DRM use expiring soon. But the original Blaze scheme does everything I need. It certainly isn't 'all' encumbered.

It seems to me that the cryptographers got a particular mathematical property into their head as 'essential' which really isn't if you design protocols. So I don't need the paired stuff.

I wrote some stuff on this:

If you know of patent claims on the DH based scheme I describe, please let me know.

I'm not sure if I have ever been so happy to be proven wrong,  thanks. 

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