> This occurred to me too. There was another response that actually > seemed to indicate that there was incremental benefit even when using > a VPN tunnel solution. I'd like to hear about the benefits in that > case as well. defense in depth. you do what you can on every link and layer. and that ain't good enough. had a raspberry pi pwned last night, within a short time of it being on the wild net. no, we have not had time to RE yet. randy