Hi Randy, It may be a side effect of some OSs. It seems that many of them remember the SSID, and they tend to use the first one that was learnt or the one that offers better signal, etc. So, if the user chooses ietf-legacy in an OS, at some point and then later used ietf5ghz (just to put an example), the OS will “prefer” ietf-legacy, unless you go to your control panel and change the “order” of those SSIDs preference. So, a simple way to avoid that, is to rename the ietf-legacy at each IETF meeting with the IETF meeting number, for example ietf-legacy99 for the next one. At this way, the standard SSID (ietf5ghz in my example) gain the preference. Same scheme of ssdi+ietfnumber, can be used to make sure that as many users as we wish, go to our “preferred” network (for example NAT64). We just need to change our actual mind to get used to it. Regards, Jordi -----Mensaje original----- De: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> en nombre de Randy Bush <randy@xxxxxxx> Responder a: <randy@xxxxxxx> Fecha: miércoles, 12 de julio de 2017, 2:34 Para: IETF Rinse Repeat <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Asunto: meeting ietf-legacy ssid the noc sees a quite large number of associations to the unencrypted ietf-legacy ssid as opposed to say the encrypted ietf ssid some of us are wondering if those using ietf-legacy o do not realize it is completely unencrypted over the air, or o don't care as their threat model sees runnin' nekkid over the air as not a significant additional weakness, or o believe that they are using sufficient encryption at higher layers to meet their needs, or o other these days, some meetings do not provide unencrypted wifi at all and seem not to get complaints. maybe their attendees are just geekier and/or more security conscious. clue bat, please. unicast responses accepted too. randy ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.consulintel.es The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited.