On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 05:22:24PM -0000, John Levine wrote: > In article <20170607234116.kle7vflcjc7hzjpx@xxxxxxxxx> you write: > >Well, it's said that conference/standards travellers often drop large > >sums of money at many fine dining establishments. And no one seems to > >have a problem when concierges get referral fees for suggesting > >restaurants to their clients. There may be more money in getting this > >geolocation thing as right as possible than you think. > > Our phones geolocate just fine, so I think that part of the problem is > solved. We should be clear what problem we're trying to solve. Randy Bush's original posting was about geolocation using BSSID's belonging to Wifi AP's. This is typically done on mobile devices, although I suppose some browsers could be querying the OS for Wireless BSSID's. Other people have broadened this discussion out to geolocation by IP address, where the server may be trying to make inferences based on the IP address of the web request as it appears to the front-end server of the web service. This is very different from the Browser providing HTML5 Gelocation information, after asking permission of the user whether a particular web site should be given visibility to whatever location information the browser might posses. So in classic IETF fashion, if this is something where someone wants to start a wg or a BOF, it would be helpful if the scope of the problem is very clearly defined. :-) - Ted