On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 10:09:39PM -0000, John Levine wrote: > In article <efebcd89-289d-2a3e-9246-6321c07bd255@xxxxxx> you write: > >So to sum up: > > > >"Here is a problem: ... " > > > >"No its not and even if it was, ... > > I'd say that summary is not even wrong. Our problem is not technical. > Geolocation is handled by a handful of companies that have no > incentive to solve our problem. > > How many wifi networks are there in the world? I expect upward of a > hundred million. > > How many wifi networks regularly move from one continent to another? > You can probably count them on your fingers. We're not even a > rounding error, and we're not paying customers. Why should Maxmind et > al. spend money to build a mechanism to deal with us and networks like > ours? See, now, this is why we need to put geoloc information into DNS and/or BGP, thus cutting out the secret sauce makers for all cases where services don't mind trusting DNS/BGP geoloc data. I mean that half-facetiously, half-seriously.