On Apr 4, 2017, at 20:43, Andrew Newton <andy@xxxxxx> wrote: > > In my opinion, statistics will better inform this discussion. Statistics is useful for reasoning about stable countries. (It may also be useful to remember that the US is unsafe beyond its borders. Chicago has the murder rate Colombia had in 2013, before the peace process fully set in. Statistically, the chance of any IETFer being killed last week was about 1.5 %.) Grüße, Carsten