An observation on part of this thread, stimulated by some recent experiences... As people think about what should go where and how rapidly, it is easy to forget two things about working group documents. First, the people we call authors are supposed to be reflecting WG decisions and preferences, not their own, and are accountable to WG chairs in the latter's capacity as interpreters of WG consensus. Situations and preferences differ as do WG styles of operation, but, for some situations, that responsibility may justify semi-private "did I get this right?" checking and/or wanting a draft to reflect all of the conclusions from a given WG meeting or email thread rather than having those changes posted incrementally and without context. Second, we often end up with co-authors (or co-editors) on a given document and do so for a wide variety of different reasons. For example, when a document is a revision of an earlier RFC, authors of the previous version may be listed as authors on the new one as a courtesy even if they are not actively participating editing the revision or even in the WG (whether that is appropriate is another discussion). However, there are also cases in which two or more author-editors are active at the same time, passing the virtual pen back and forth or otherwise collaborating in a fairly dynamic way. For those cases, "are these changes ok with you?" and "did I miss anything important?" checks are appropriate and often result in document improvements and saved WG time. Either of those situations can justify a delay of some days in getting an I-D posted -- longer than pushing micro-changes to github or equivalent. They also provide further justification for a snapshot-based model. I would suggest that, if delays for these reasons are weeks (or longer) rather then days, the WG may have a management problem, but that, too, is a almost entirely a separate issue. john