On 28/02/17 07:45, John Levine wrote: > In article > <CAA-e5Q0EZ6TExiJz+U0oicpst5iVteCq4JUWXNSQHVA24kOgcA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > you write: >> I think we can just say "children under 13 must obtain consent >> from their parents or legal guardians". We should be fine in terms >> of COPPA if parents agree with the release of personal >> information. > > We have no process to obtain, verify, or record parental consent. > Unless someone anticipates an influx of middle school kids to the > IETF, please leave the language alone. > > Note that children can read IETF stuff all they want -- they just > can't send messages in. Let me try once more. The change I suggest to the IAOC IS: OLD: Our websites are not intended for use by children under 13 years old. We do not knowingly collect personally identifiable information from, or target our websites to, children under the age of 13. In accordance with the United States Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act of 1998, if we discover that a child under 13 has provided us with personally identifiable information, without the consent and participation of a parent or guardian, we will remove it from our systems. NEW: Our websites are not aimed at children under 13 years old. We do not knowingly collect personally identifiable information from, or target our websites to, children under the age of 13. In accordance with the United States Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act of 1998, if we discover that a child under 13 has provided us with personally identifiable information, without the consent and participation of a parent or guardian, we will remove it from our systems. My reason is that we do in fact intend that our public content could be used by anyone capable of understanding that content, independent of age. We just don't specifically include or exclude or aim to deal with 12 year olds, nor Irish people, nor any other category. Perhaps there's a better phrase than "aimed at" but "intended for" is wrong as I read it. (To save you some time, there's only that one change in the OLD/NEW above.) Cheers, S > > R's, John > >
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