Re: DMARC methods in mailman (off-topic)

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Hi Ted,
At 07:12 21-12-2016, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
Given that the DMARC "specifcation" isn't even being treated as a
standard that must be obeyed in all of its particulars by its
proponents --- the fact that this is being used by its propoonents to
twist mailers of the IETF --- a standards body --- into knots because
it is enforcement is random and *not* standardized is, quite frankly,
amazing to me.

According to a blog article written by Mr Woodcraft, Senior Technical Adviser, Government Digital Service, DMARC is "almost an internet standard listed as 'Informational' at the The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF), although it's already widely used particularly by the larger, consumer-facing email providers". There was an announcement from the Paypal Product and Ecosystem Security Team in which there is the following: "the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) published RFC 7489 for Domain-based Message Authentication Reporting and Conformance (DMARC)". According to the RFC Editor the specification was published in the Independent Stream [1], i.e. the specification was not been published by the IETF.

The current discussion, as the previous ones, is about whether there is a problem affecting IETF mailing list subscribers, and if so, what to do about it. Is that similar to the one discussed in the thread at https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/10/24/794 ?

Regards,
S. Moonesamy

1. https://www.rfc-editor.org/about/independent/



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