> -----Original Message----- > From: Randy Bush [mailto:randy@xxxxxxx] > Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 2:01 PM > To: MH Michael Hammer (5304) > Cc: Alia Atlas; IETF Disgust List > Subject: Re: bettering open source involvement > > > It appears that rather than trying to find ways to reduce friction, > > the attitude is that people must dedicate their lives to the IETF > > alter in order to get things done. Part of this is because to some > > extent IETF is driven by people who are paid by their organizations to > > be full time IETFers. My company allows my participation in IETF > > working groups (as well as other places) but does not “sponsor” it. > > This isn’t a complaint but rather, recognition of reality. Is it any > > wonder that so many people who get involved in the IETF because of one > > particular thing end up walking away from standards work? > > https://archive.psg.com/051000.ccr-ivtf.html I had forgotten about that article Randy. Time flies when you're having fun. Mike