Re: 10 a.m.

[Ted Lemon <mellon@xxxxxxxxx>]

My experience of this was that I heard at the plenary that it was popular and that we would try it again, but did not hear a proposal for when (although I may be misremembering that).   And then when I found out about it on the agenda, it was news to me.   And I'd bought my tickets assuming a 9am meeting start time and assuming I wouldn't be able to make the last meeting on Friday, and then realized I wouldn't be able to stay for the whole first meeting either.

So on the one hand, I think this was pre-discussed.   But on the other hand, the messaging wasn't sufficiently effective _for me_.   I just looked in the registration announcement and the "meeting information" announcement, and there's nothing there.   The first I noticed it was when I looked at the preliminary agenda.

I am painfully well acquainted with the vicissitudes of IESG life, so I feel it would be churlish to point fingers, but I will say that if we do this again, the information should be at the top of both those announcements in large, friendly letters.

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 6:49 AM, Tim Chown <tjc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,

I share Brian’s concern on this.

On 11 Jul 2016, at 14:10, Alia Atlas <akatlas@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Brian,

In Buenos Aires, the dinner times are substantially later and the schedule was

adjusted to accommodate local conditions.  There was a lot of positive feedback 

about the later starting time.

Was this one of the questions in the post-meeting survey, and if so what was the result?

I'm sure you remember the Paris meeting where the IETF tried a different evening

schedule & it was very popular.  

So, in response to the feedback and as an experiment, the starting time is later.

I believe Alexa included that this was an experiment in announcements.

I’m not against experiments, but I don’t recall any open list discussion on conducting it, which would have been nice to have, or did that happen?

Tim

Regards,

Alia

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,

Where do I find the discussion and subsequent rough consensus to switch the
starting time of the IETF f2f meeting days to 10 a.m.?

As far as I'm concerned that is a big mistake, wasting an hour every day
and making it (even more) difficult to relax in the evenings.

(If there is some local peculiarity in Buenos Aires and Berlin that makes
this more practical, it would be interesting to know.)

Regards
   Brian