> On May 25, 2016, at 12:53 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 25 May 2016, Melinda Shore wrote: > >> Perhaps we should regard this as an opportunity to talk about which forms of bigotry we'll accommodate and which we won't. > > We're accomodating bigotry all the time. > > Compare: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Singapore > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_the_United_States#Visa_exemption > > Now tell me how many more participants enjoy a lot less hassle in order to attend Singapore compared to attending a meeting in USA? Notice also that this isn't theoretical or low risk hassle, this is actual hassle of having to go through a visa application process with all that means. I went through a visa application process to attend the meeting in China, and there was no point in that process where I was concerned that I might be imprisoned for my race, religion, gender, sexual orientation or gender expression… Is that a real risk for IETF attendees who are applying for visas to attend U.S. meetings? If so, in what way? Or are you talking about annoying paperwork? Margaret