The IETF has a very strong tradition of commenting at length on the topic at hand and hoping either that IETF leadership will spend the time to review the whole thread and extract the salient points from it, or give up in despair. So what you are seeing here is very much the IETF tradition. Asking people to do better probably won't work, although it never hurts to try.
I personally see this as a tools problem, more than a communications problem--we need better tools to track the points being made in discussions so that either the people discussing can see that they don't need to make a particular point again, or at least that the people tracking the discussion can see that the point has already been made.
On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 4:48 AM, Corinne Cath <corinnecath@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear all,Just a quick question: are you intending on providing feedback to the IAOC? If so, maybe it makes sense to coordinate a bit in order to prevent a duplication of entries? Or will it be useful if multiple people point out the same themes?Best,CorinneOn Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:50 PM, <nalini.elkins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:_______________________________________________>>But
>> I think these issues should be balanced with the overall benefit
>> that the IETF World Tour provides.
>As I've said repeatedly, I don't think the world tour actually
>does bring much benefit. I'm very hopeful that some of the
>South Americans who attended their first IETF meeting because
>it was held in Buenos Aires will continue to participate (as in:
>bring in work and participate in ongoing work, and not as in: sit
>in meetings) but historically that has not been the case.
Just to put some numbers into this conversation, we have 8 people from Latin America who have signed up to be a part of the Internet Draft Review teams. The first review team to form will likely be the Spanish-speaking DNSOP review team.This is one week after IETF 95 and after 3 days of soliciting review teams and basically zero publicity.I wonder if there has not been more participation in active IETF work before from other regions because there was no structured way to start participating and language insensitivity. (BTW, there is a new member of the Mentoring Team from Latin America, that I met in Buenos Aires who will translate the Mentoring emails into Spanish.)But the effort of the Mentoring Team is standing on the shoulders of giants. People such as Carlos Martinez, Christian O'Flaherty, Alvaro Retana, Dr. Juliao Braga, and many others who have done such a tremendous job of outreach to their community in Latin America.So, let's do some changing of history.Nalini
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