On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 4/6/16 6:19 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: >> >> Anything less specific leaves too much to interpretation, which >> guarantees that similar errors will recur. > > > The situation in Singapore goes well beyond being vaguely > homophobic, to actively criminalizing the families of some > IETF participants. This is not simply a matter of same-sex > marriage not being legal there, or of the country lacking > anti-discrimination laws. I would like to ask for validation and citation of what you are saying above. I live in Singapore and yes, we do have the archaic rules on our books (Section 377A of the Penal Code - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_377A_of_the_Penal_Code_%28Singapore%29) This is a rule we inherited from our British colonial days. I don't agree with that section, but it is there. There are ongoing debates on withdrawing Section 377A and it will happen eventually. It is a matter of time. If there is any "active criminalizing" then how would this annual event called pinkdot.sg (http://pinkdot.sg/) happen? The next pinkdot.sg is on 4th June 2016. But, as it has been in Singapore so far, open and honest dialogue is used to get to a favourable resolution. It is still work in progress though. So, let's keep discussions based on facts please. Harish