Skickat från min iPhone 16 mars 2016 kl. 04:50 skrev <lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx> <lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx>: >> also say yes on moral grounds as it happens, but one yes >> should be enough for everyone except Molly Bloom:-) > > It's a little far-fetched to expect those people familiar > with turgid, uninteresting, overlong, badly-written, misspelled > and ungrammatical internet-drafts to also be familiar with > Ulysses. > Lloyd Wood lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx http://about.me/lloydwood > Its an Irish thing > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@xxxxxxxxx> > To: Eliot Lear <lear@xxxxxxxxx>; Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; IETF Disgust List <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, 16 March 2016, 1:25 > Subject: Re: ietf.org unaccessible for Tor users > > > >> On 15/03/16 14:13, Eliot Lear wrote: >> By providing the chaff > > We are not doing that. We are providing our usual web site is > all. That we need to turn off an additional control added by > CF is not the same as actively providing cover traffic. > > >> we are making a moral decision to >> help those who use Tor. Have we done so consciously and is it the right >> one? > > I don't think we (the IETF) need to decide that. We need to > decide to re-level the field for exit nodes so that people > who access the IETF site via those hosts aren't discommoded. > > Speaking personally, I'd answer your question with a yes, but > not on moral grounds, rather because Tor is one of the most > widely used privacy enhancing technologies; the IETF should > encourage use of such so that we learn how to make privacy > better on the Internet, so therefore we should, I think, be > actively encouraging its use so we learn more about it. I > don't think the IETF has established that as a consensus > position, but nor should we have to. It's fairly obvious I > reckon. > > I'd also say yes on moral grounds as it happens, but one yes > should be enough for everyone except Molly Bloom:-) > > Cheers, > S. >