>> I think the IETF could (and should) make substantial contributions >> in this area. But if we're going to do so, we need to dive in now. > > Can you be more specific? (Bearing in mind that we're not the Internet > police and nor are we the "crap small device" police;-) make it really easy for widget makers to make reasonably secured widgets by designing protocols and supporting crypto which is easy to implement and deploy [0]. then, as the social and legal pressures build, they have a path and no excuse. randy -- [0] oh, and end world hunger too