Den 09. feb. 2016 06:01, skrev Yoav Nir: > >> On 9 Feb 2016, at 1:20 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Ronald Bonica wrote: >>>> The words "many" and "some" don't do justice to the conversation. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-in-real-world-02 provides more concrete numbers from real-world observation. >>> >>> Ah, but the result is much simpler. >>> >>> Some other real world data (Google QUIC experiments) already tell us >>> that a sizable part of the Internet (was it 7 %?) is not reachable via >>> UDP at all. This just ups that number slightly for IPv6 and UDP >>> protocols that don't have their own segmentation. >>> >>> UDP, it was nice to have known you. >> >> Maybe what we needed all along was a better TCP that allowed data to >> be sent on the first packet. > > And could be stateless on the server > > And you could get the same size data as the other side sent you without adding your own message layer. > > Yoav > > Never forget that five packets are required. http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=1093283&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fiel5%2F26%2F23863%2F01093283.pdf%3Farnumber%3D1093283