As this impacts more than just the IAB, it seems to me that this is
incomplete without a (consensual) consideration of what the IAOC needs
from the IAB representation.
This job is more than a liaison role, so some consideration of actual
skillset and ability to represent the IAB view, act on behalf of the IAB
when appropriate, and carry matters back to the IAB for timely and
appropriate review seem kind of key factors. Also, if it’s not an ex
officio position, it would seem reasonable to outline a mechanism
whereby the IAOC could indicate to the IAB that things were not
working/a replacement was needed. At the same time, lack of churn is
useful to the IAOC’s internal functioning, so some level of term
commitment would be useful, ISTM.
(Speaking purely for myself, of course, and not from my role as a member
of the IAOC).
If, on the other hand, that seems like too much work, then perhaps the
“IAB Chair has too many things to do” is a fig leaf to cover some
IAB internal politicking, which would be a shame. There’s plenty of
work that needs doing.
Leslie.
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On 2 Feb 2016, at 14:19, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
Hi,
I think this draft mixes up two things.
(1) A proposal that the IAB Chair's ex officio seat in the IAOC be
changed
to be a seat for an IAB voting member designated by the IAB. That of
course
can only be achieved by an RFC that formally updates RFC 4071 and so
becomes
part of BCP 101.
(2) A description of some IAB internal organisational matters, which
the IAB
is clearly free to arrange how it wants, and publish if it wants. IAB
internal arrangements don't need to be BCPs.
I've got nothing to say about (2).
About (1), I think we should hear the pros and cons, because I doubt
if
this proposal arose in a vacuum. In particular, how would this help
the
IAOC be more effective and more responsive to community concerns?
Regards
Brian Carpenter
On 03/02/2016 07:20, internet-drafts@xxxxxxxx wrote:
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
directories.
Title : Updating the ex-officio member of the IAB in
the IAOC
Authors : Ted Hardie
Andrew Sullivan
Russ Housley
Filename : draft-hardie-iaoc-iab-update-00.txt
Pages : 4
Date : 2016-02-02
Abstract:
At the time the IETF Administrative Oversight Committee was set up
the Internet Architecture Board had an internal structure
significantly different from its current structure. This document
aims to update the ex officio member from the IAB who serves on the
IAOC in order to better account for that change and better match the
skills set out in RFC 4333.
The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hardie-iaoc-iab-update/
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