Nice old story. I bet the hotels have learned to better classify clientele and offer appropriate discounts on rooms. If i remember correctly, when Ciscos conference went to Vegas just a few years back, the rates at the conference hotel Mandalay Bay where fairly high, but the rates at adjacent Luxor where at its usual touristy low (*). Vegas might still be good for work: If i rank cities based on stuff that could be more interesting than work, Vegas would rank fairly low for me. One of these days i just want to go to CES. Btw: "Going to CES" seems to be a code word to actually go some place else. Would be fun to have IETF in the same week in Vegas as Def Con. Like CES, i only know the german counterpart. Especially with the influx of privacy religion into the IETF, there could be some good cross-polination. Like CES, i only know the german counterpart yet (CCC in Hamburg was very well made. Alas, last time next yet, highly recommended). Cheers Toerless On Sat, Jan 09, 2016 at 09:32:37PM -0800, Randall Gellens wrote: > At 8:25 PM +0000 1/9/16, Lloyd Wood wrote: > > > blockquote, div.yahoo_quoted { margin-left: 0 !important; > >border-left:1px #715FFA solid !important; padding-left:1ex > >!important; background-color:white !important; } and then there was > >that time physicists met in Las Vegas and the town told them never > >to return. > > > > > > <>http://physicsbuzz.physicscentral.com/2015/09/one-winning-move.html > > > > > > L. > > > > > > the only winning move is not to bet on -00. > > > Amusing story, although I expect that, were the IETF to try and > emulate this, the hotel would find it one of their most profitable > weeks. Likely the bar tabs alone would fund the entire hotel > operation, with gambling winnings providing pure gravy. > > > > > > > > On Saturday, January 9, 2016, 11:14 AM, Randall Gellens > ><rg+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > At 8:19 AM -<tel:0800%201/5/16>0800 1/5/16, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > > > > >> Las Vegas would clearly win, but I have a strong impression that > >> many of our attendees would object to going there. (It also happens > >> to be a "tourist destination" for reasons that kind of escapes > >> me, but that's yet another discussion). > > > > > > I'd be very upset if we started meeting in perhaps the last remaining > > all-smoking-all-the-time location in the U.S. or Canada. > > > > -- > > Randall Gellens > > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- > > In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up > > because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I > > didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. They came for the trade > > unionists, I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then > > they came for Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a > > Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left > > to speak up. --Martin Niemoell > > > -- > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- > Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine. -- --- Toerless Eckert, eckert@xxxxxxxxx