On 05/01/2016 11:36, Stephan Wenger wrote: ... > IMO, the “benefits from” language extends the scope of what is currently codified in BCP79... Exactly my point. ... > If, after community review, the IETF at large decides that an extension of BCP79’s scope is what it wants, then why not put it in the Note Well? Rather, I would say, why not put it in BCP 79? It isn't hard - basically it needs a one paragraph RFC (not counting boilerplate) to do so. "Section 6.6 of RFC 3979 (When is a Disclosure Required?) is replaced by the following text: IPR disclosures under Sections 6.1.1. and 6.1.2 are required with respect to IPR that is owned directly or indirectly by or otherwise benefits the individual or his/her employer or sponsor (if any) or to IPR that such persons otherwise have the right to license or assert." I don't like the idea of legislating on such a fundamental question other than through a BCP. Note that this is not a trivial extension. If companies A and B have a private patent cartel (a.k.a. cross-licensing), contributors from company B would be caught by this extension if aware of a relevant patent owned by company A. That really isn't something we can slide in through the back door. Brian