On 31/12/2015 04:44, John C Klensin wrote: ... > She set a very high standard for interpersonal relationships in > the IETF, one that we can only approximate with our assorted > "good behavior" documents. I have to echo this. Joyce was helpful and kind from the day I first met her and was in fact a mentor long before the IETF had mentors. I think we should rank "What would Joyce have said?" alongside "What would Jon have done?" Brian Carpenter