>> that's definitely changed is the amount of effort going into >> chartering, and it's not clear to me that it's paid off. > >That's a fair point. I don't know how we get a clear answer. Perhaps some stats on charter length vs. number of discusses on documents or something like that. My non-statistical opinion is that the charter is much less important than WG chairs who understand the topic and WG members who can (and are willing to) write well. R's, John