Re: Gen-ART LC review of draft-bradner-iaoc-terms-01

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fwiw - based on your & Dave’s previous comments I am removing this level of detail from the draft 
and just saying that the IAOC will develop processes for the transition and elections

I can also say that the processes will be subject to public comment before adoption

that said, I see problems with having the previous chair run the elections in almost all cases
if the previous chairs term is up they would not likely be in the meeting and if the term is
not up the person, more often than not, will be running for an additional term.

and then you have the kind of thing that happened at the last chair election:

———
Tobias, as Acting IAOC Chair, opened the IAOC meeting on 2015-04-28
at 10:26 AM London UK time.

Tobias stated that the first order of business is to elect the IAOC
Chair, and nominations are now open. Scott nominated Tobias. There
were no other nominations. Tobias indicated his willingness to
serve, and stated that he had no conflicts. The term would expire in
March of 2016.  Tobias left the room to facilitate discussion. 
Tobias was called back in the room

Ray closed discussions and called the question. The motion on the
floor is to elect Tobias as IAOC Chair.  There was no additional
discussion. There were no abstentions, and no objections. Tobias was
unanimously elected IAOC Chair.

Jari Arkko [YES]
Lou Berger [YES]
Scott Bradner [YES]
Kathy Brown [YES]
Tobias Gondrom [YES]
Benson Schliesser [YES]
Andrew Sullivan [YES]
——


but lets discuss options for this later

Scott


> On Jul 28, 2015, at 6:02 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> --On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 17:22 -0400 "Scott O. Bradner"
> <sob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> ps - the answer to your question is that the IAD does
> 
> Scott,
> 
> Strikes me as a bad plan to ever have an employee of the IAOC
> Chair one of its meetings, just as having a President of a
> company who is an ex-officio member of that company's board
> chair meetings of the Board, especially meetings that might make
> decisions that could affect her.  While I can't imagine this
> being an actual problem with the IAOC, it could have a bad odor.
> 
> Suggestion: Let the person who has chaired the IAOC for the
> previous months chair the meeting unless there is a problem
> (e.g., not there) or conflict (e.g., candidate for another year
> as chair) and otherwise let the IAOC select an interim chair
> from the voting membership, using whatever mechanism they like,
> and to serve until the new/incoming chair is selected and
> seated.  If the IAOC cannot easily reach agreement on who should
> act as chair for the length of time it takes to hold an
> election, I think it would be a sign of problems that your
> document, probably wisely, do not address.
> 
>     john
> 
> 
> 





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