--On Monday, July 27, 2015 2:34 AM +1200 Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >... > But it was always clear that the IETF > kept the power of decision for assignments of domain names for > technical uses, which has nothing to do with string lengths. At the risk of hair-splitting, it was always clear that the IETF always had (and kept) the power of decision over name properties such as characters to be used. Lengths were another matter and probably fell under the same general policies that resulted in decisions about particular parameter values being treated as requests. In particular, IANA made the decisions about what names or parameter values were actually allocated, not the IETF or the requester. However, until circa 1998 - 1998, the IETF _never_ had the "power of decision" over what went in the root, technical or otherwise. RFC 1591 was never an IETF document. It was an IANA document for community information, one that described IANA-developed procedures and plans. The IETF was never involved in, e.g., ccTLD assignments. Had the IETF asked (or "decided") that additional TLD names (whether shorter or longer) be delegated for technical purposes, I don't know what would have happened, but that statement from 1591 about anticipation of new gTLDs may constitute a hint. That model started changing in the last 1990s and changed considerably as ICANN took over and the staffing and complexion of IANA changed. In particular, the IETF started assigning specific values and directed IANA to put them into registries and started reserving DNS names, notably the "example" set. The snit with ICANN staff that resulted in RFC 3172 could be seen from the IANA perspective as an attempt to assert the authority IANA had before ICANN came into being but we viewed it as interference in authority the IETF and IAB acquired as part of the transition to ICANN. john