On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 04:17:05PM -0500, Ted Lemon wrote: > Fewer F2F meetings per year would be one way to accomplish this: > encourage more interim virtual meetings, and then cut back to two or > one f2f meeting per year. At most. Of all possible organizations, the IETF should be best-positioned to figure out how to enable broad/deep participation in virtual-only meetings. Travel is very expensive (not just in terms of money, but in terms of time) and increasingly hazardous to the security and privacy of anyone crossing nearly any border or even just getting on an airplane. Harrassment, detainment, and invasive searches are now commonplace, as are the confiscation and copying of disk drives, thumb drives, phones and anything else that can hold data. [1] This may not be a big deal to those whose income and/or support make the cost inconsequential, or to those whose nationality reduces the risks at borders, or to those with the technical savvy to avoid having their private data offloaded. But to those who aren't so wealthy (or supported), and to those whose nationality almost guarantees them unlimited hassles, it may well be. Yet those are the very people whose diversity may well enrich the IETF and who might potentially stand to benefit the most from extensive interaction. ---rsk [1] Not to mention thefts, assaults, and false arrests on completely fabricated charges, e.g.: Lawsuit: TSA Supervisor Got Traveler Arrested For Bogus 'Terroristic Threat' Charge, Lied About Incident In Court https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150206/10504129938/lawsuit-tsa-supervisor-got-traveler-arrested-bogus-terroristic-threat-charge-lied-about-incident-court.shtml