On 29/12/2014 07:33, Dave Crocker wrote: ... >> However, we have not found that ADs are so specialized that there >> is a "correct" AD for every WG, > > raises the possibility that AD job descriptions ought to make > explicit reference to cross-area skills? This, of course, leads to > the challenge of figuring out what that means, in pragmatic terms. This ties back into Nico's point about maybe flattening the hierarchy (*) and essentially abolishing areas as such. I have much sympathy with that, although it's a bit scary. But it means that we would indeed change the criteria for picking ADs. We wouldn't be looking for, say, a Transport AD who is a widely recognised expert on congestion control, or a Security AD who is competent to verify a crypto algorithm. In fact, over-specialisation would be a *disqualification* for serving on the IESG. Serving as a Gen-ART reviewer has been a great experience for me, but has often forced me out of my technical comfort zone. It would be the same for the IESG in such a new order. They would have to depend more than today on expert reviewers. (*) I have just read "The Innovators" by Walter Isaacson, which I highly recommend as history of our corner of the world. He makes the point that successful innovation in our technology has mainly taken place in flattened hierarchies, or despite the hierarchy. The IETF is mentioned a couple of times in the book, along with names like Cerf, Kahn, Berners-Lee and Crocker (the other one). Regards Brian