On 11/7/2014 1:25 PM, Loa Andersson wrote: > On 2014-11-07 15:29, Dave Crocker wrote: >> If someone needs a visa, we want them to be able to get it. Figure >> out a reasonable amount of time to permit visa processing, and >> offer the letter from that time. > > That begs the the question about what is a "reasonable time" I meant to beg exactly that question. 1. We need a reasonable basis for deciding on that amount of time 2. We need a reasonable basis for believing it is sufficient for the specific venue 3. We need to arrange the rest of our processes to ensure that that amount of time really is available for folks to get their visas. On 11/7/2014 2:17 PM, Adrian Farrel wrote: > Reasonable, from the IETF perspective, has to mean "early enough that > most people who have to apply for visas through the normal system > will stand a good chance of getting a visa in time." > > Do we know what that time line is? No. Do we know that 3 months is > not enough for the USA for *this* meeting? Yes. > > Given that, it seems to be imperative to get the process for Dallas > running at once. I'm sure the IAOC is aware of the urgency for that > meeting. > > Moving forward, it would seem that 6 months is not an unreasonable > target. > > BTW, it isn't enough for the IETF to make everything available (letters of invitation, booking references, registration...). The intending attendees also have to remember to register and apply for visas. Of course, that is their affair, but we can help to remind them. +10 d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net