All; We hear you, from those who had not received their visas, and from those I solicited their status to expedite their applications. On Nov 7, 2014, at 12:17 PM, Adrian Farrel <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Reasonable, from the IETF perspective, has to mean "early enough that most people who have to apply for visas through the normal system will stand a good chance of getting a visa in time." > > Do we know what that time line is? No. > Do we know that 3 months is not enough for the USA for *this* meeting? Yes. Yes. > > Given that, it seems to be imperative to get the process for Dallas running at once. I'm sure the IAOC is aware of the urgency for that meeting. It is. There will be an announcement within a week to address this. > > Moving forward, it would seem that 6 months is not an unreasonable target. It’s not and will be separately addressed and announced. Ray IAD > > BTW, it isn't enough for the IETF to make everything available (letters of invitation, booking references, registration...). The intending attendees also have to remember to register and apply for visas. Of course, that is their affair, but we can help to remind them. > > Adrian > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ietf [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson >> Sent: 07 November 2014 21:25 >> To: dcrocker@xxxxxxxx; IAOC >> Cc: IETF Discussion >> Subject: Re: [IAOC] suggestion for the next IETFs >> >> Dave, >> >> On 2014-11-07 15:29, Dave Crocker wrote: >>> If someone needs a visa, we want them to be able to get it. Figure out >>> a reasonable amount of time to permit visa processing, and offer the >>> letter from that time. >> >> That begs the the question about what is a "reasonable time", if you >> apply for visa 3 months ahead and it is still not processed the Friday >> before the IETF meeting, is that reasonable? >> >> It also begs the question what we do if the authorities that handle the >> visa applications do respond within the reasonable time. >> >> /Loa >> >> -- >> >> >> Loa Andersson email: loa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Senior MPLS Expert loa@xxxxx >> Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64 >