Great sentiment from Paul! IMO it is a sign of a healthy organization that it can recognize and make these kinds of organizational changes. As they say, adapt or die, change with the times, and don¹t be like the ITU. ;-) Jason On 10/9/14, 1:36 AM, "Jari Arkko" <jari.arkko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >Paul, > >> As someone who has been active in Apps WGs for 20 years (sigh), I would >>hate to see the area disappear, but that kind of thinking has caused the >>IETF to hold on to other things much too long. > >I wanted to say that while we are talking about changing organisation, we >are *not* abandoning any work. The number of WGs and topics fluctuates, >but I cannot think of many more significant standards efforts at the >moment than what we are doing with HTTP 2.0 for instance. Apps work is >very important, and we continue to be happy to create new working groups >and sponsor BOFs. However, we also feel that slightly bigger group of ADs >would allow some flexibility to deal with the fluctuations, distribute >workload better, etc. So - no disappearance but rather a change in form. > >Jari >