Dave raised this a while back and I think it underlies at least his issues with the draft so I'd like to check if there's consensus on what I and I think folks on the saag list considered as the target audience for this. On 04/08/14 18:08, Dave Crocker wrote: > All of which leads to the basic question of who this draft is for? I > thought it was for broad-based use among technicians, technical managers > and others, including folk who are not security experts and folk who > might not even be networking or computer experts. > > It really would help to gain some rough consensus about the target > audience for this document, so that that population can be referenced > when attempting to evaluate choices, rather than having anyone attempt > to rely on their personal preferences, here on the IETF. > Good question. My own take, and I think one that was assumed in the saag discussion, but perhaps was not explicit (didn't check) is: The audience for this are protocol designers who know and care a bit about security and security folks. That is, its for the average or better IETF participant. I'm pretty sure Dave disagrees with that and thinks that we should target a broader audience or at least consider that this will be read by a broader audience and so should target those. I'd also note two other things. 1) this is not a tutorial, nor should it be, nor can it be and 2) later, we will want to make recommendations as to when one should use OS and those should be more easily understood by a wider audience and (I think) that ought be done as part of an effort to update BCP72. So this draft will not be the last word on OS. Other opinions? I think good responses here would be of the form "yeah, what you said" or "no, I think the audience for this should be..." In the latter case, please do weigh the difference between the perfect and the good. Put another way, if you suggest a radically different audience, I'll be asking you if you're willing and able to help do the work to change the document accordingly:-) And perhaps it'd be good if the first person to respond along the latter lines could be Dave so that we're clear what different from the above audience he meant. Ta, S.