Re: Moderation on ietf@xxxxxxxx

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	I agree. Moderated mailing lists in these forums are bogus.

	--Tom

On Jul 22, 2014:11:12 AM, at 11:12 AM, manning bill <bmanning@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> like this has never been a problem in the past … yet every time it has worked out that a reasonable adults, we were able to get past
> the problems and the list survived - until now.   Moderation is the explicit application of personal bias over the discussion.   In other words,
> censorship.  Which is your prerogative - since you are the current,temporary steward.   But it will drive more work away from IETF.
> 
> /bill
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> On 22July2014Tuesday, at 7:24, IETF Chair <chair@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> The ietf@xxxxxxxx list is very active. It hosts varied discussions ranging from last calls to IETF organisation matters to any Internet technology-related topics that come up. We all have seen how much discussion there is, and occasionally, discussions that become unproductive or repetitive. Part of the root cause of this is that unlike most IETF lists, there is no working group chair overseeing and driving discussions.
>> 
>> The IESG has discussed this and plans to add moderators to manage the list discussion. The moderators will track and guide discussions and remind people when they get outside of the lines. Please respect the feedback from the moderators when they say, for instance, that an issue has been already previously discussed. 
>> 
>> The moderation system will not affect other mailing list management methods that are used on this list or in the IETF in general.
>> 
>> If you have feedback on this plan, please let us know.
>> 
>> Jari Arkko for the IESG
>> 
> 
> 

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