On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 00:15:49 Viktor Dukhovni wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 04:47:19PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > > > However, DMARC is problematic for mail that does not flow from > > > > operators having a relationship with the domain owner, directly to > > > > receivers operating the destination mailbox. Examples of such > > > > "indirect" flows are mailing lists, publish-to-friend > > > > functionality, > > > > mailbox forwarding (".forward"), and third-party services that send > > > > on behalf of clients. The working group will explore possible > > > > updates > > > > and extensions to the specifications in order to address > > > > limitations > > > > and/or add capabilities. It will also provide technical > > > > implementation guidance and review possible enhancements elsewhere > > > > in > > > > the mail handling sequence that could improve could DMARC > > > > compatibility. > > This is a solved problem, the "Rfc822.Sender" field should have > from the outset trumped the "Rfc822.From" field when determining > message origin, and the DMARC policy should be that of the "Sender" > domain. Some MUAs already expose "Sender != From" by displaying > "From <sender> on behalf of <author>". This needs to become standard > MUA behaviour. I am coming around to the point of view. FWIW, the text is from the proposed charter, I didn't write any of it. Scott K