Re: [Internet Policy] Fwd: Re: root justification for net neutrality?

[Kelvin Githira <kelvin@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I foresee it being optional. 

Some will preffer it being free , while some who can will prefer to pay for it. 

A free sevice will have its cons while a paid service will center on its pros

i.e value for quality. 

Focus should primariry be at this point internet for all.

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On Jun 1, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Arnaud AMELINA <amelnaud@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I totally agree with you Mohammed, if we do not want a bicéphal internet with a Private party and another who will be free with perpetual war, as we are seeing at the softwares, better leave things as they are. Each finding its interest, without encroaching too far on the other's.

Arnaud A. A. AMELINA

ISOC-TOGO

West Africa

2014-06-01 21:13 GMT+00:00 mohammed serrhini <serrhini@xxxxxxx>:

the internet access must be free, as the oxygen breathing, the proposition that Internet could be provided as a public service and funded through taxes is not very correct because most part of the world population suffers from taxes or already are overtaxed, all of us know about the quality of public services, nowadays most public services are privatized. in the end internet services will be reprivatized again.
I think there should be a tax on each internet financial transaction not on the client side but on the side of companies,  we all days  heard about internet money and the expononcial number of bilion.
peering is greet solution for reducing cost of internet.

Mohammed Serrhini
Morocco chapter

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От кого: David Collier-Brown <davec-b@xxxxxxxxxx>
Кому: internetpolicy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Дата: Fri, 30 May 2014 20:38:32 -0400
Тема: Re: [Internet Policy] root justification for net neutrality?

May I speculate that access is cheap enough that it can be treated as a
universal good, much like light-houses.

Universals are beneficial to everyone, but cost so little per benefit
that it's hard to figure out how to charge for them. Lighthouses are
the classic example, and are the very first thing that the government of
the United States built...

--dave


On 05/30/2014 11:21 AM, Richard Hill wrote:
> Veni,
>
> That is great, but then I guess that my access is being subsidized by
> Bulgarian users. Very generous of them.
>
> Best,
> Richard
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Veni Markovski" <veni@xxxxxxxx>
> To: "Richard Hill" <rhill@xxxxxxxxx>; "Gary Wayne Kenward"
> <garykenward@xxxxxxxx>; "Nick Ashton-Hart" <nashton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <internetpolicy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 5:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] root justification for net neutrality?
>
>
>> Hi.
>> See below slight correction.
>>
>> On 05/30/14 10:04, Richard Hill wrote:
>>> I agree with Gary and partly with Nick.
>>>
>>> Upstream service providers are already paying to connect to the
>>> Internet, but the question is whether they should pay more when what
>>> they do imposes capacity upgrades downstream.
>>>
>>> TANSTAAFL (if you don't know that acronym, see
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanstaafl )
>>>
>>> In the end, it is always us, the people who pay. The question is how
>>> and how much. The Internet could be provided as a public service and
>>> funded through taxes (or partly funded through taxes), or it can be
>>> funded by flat-rate payments from users (the system most commonly
>>> used today), or it could be funded by data-volume based payments from
>>> users (a system used in some places), or it could be funded by some
>>> combination of payments from users and upstream suppliers (often
>>> called OTT).
>>>
>>
>> Not always, Richard.
>> Come to Sofia, Bulgaria, and login at any of the thousands free wi-fi
>> locations. No passwords, no registration, not requirements (like in
>> other EU countries) to give your personal data. Yes, the internet
>> access could be also free.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best,
>> Veni Markovski
>> http://www.veni.com
>> https://www.facebook.com/venimarkovski
>> https://twitter.com/veni
>>
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>>
>>
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