Hi Ray, my questions below, On 4/4/14, IETF Administrative Director <iad@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > All; > > The Trustees of the IETF Trust have voted an intent to renounce (abandon) > the "IETF Secretariat" > trademark, but before taking any action they desire to hear from the > community. What is this hearing status like? is it like if the community reply was: *no* don't do that, then they as trustees will change their mind, or is it, just hearing. I am not sure if my input has any value in this community request. If IETF is not active in using its trademarks in business, then why the trustees don't think in different directions. Was IETF trademarks used in US and Europe and the result was not good, we need information to know what is happening? My thoughts is that we may get benefits from IETF trademarks in future, so if the trustees decide now to leave it, could they establish it any time by thoes governments registrations? I am not a legal expert person but for international organisation like IETF is it possible to get registrations at UN or any other authority that may make discounts? Thanks AB