Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2014 13:35:56 -0400 From: John C Klensin <klensin@xxxxxxx> Message-ID: <60CBF25E851513F3E437727D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | As others have pointed out, the first international connections | were to the UK and Norway, not The Netherlands. The UK and NO links were really arpanet links, not internet, and were subject to all of the arpanet restrictions. For example, I am reasonably sure that mail from janet users to arpanet users did not travel over the arpnet's UK link. I suspect the same was true of Norway. So, while it was technically true that there were those international arpanet links, they (like all the private intra-company links, whether they used IP or something else) don't really count as internet links. I would certainly count the NL link (really, EU link, that happened to terminate in Amsterdam) as the first international true internet link (in that it connected other networks, not just an end system or two). But wrt ccTLDs you're right, NL certainly wasn't first - excluding US and UK (which were registered before registrations opened...) I think the first was IL (and it would have been 1985 - before the 1986 reg date cited for NL). Ignoring UK, NL might well have been the first European TLD registered though. | I really wish that we could somehow restore the spirit of a | collaborative effort, one with many cooperating contributors to It would be good, but it is too big for that now, and includes all those people whose primary interest is publicity (including politicians of course) - for whom outlandish claims and self promotion are normal. kre